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the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks. >> the heavy lifting is going to have to happen this week. >> if this week goes bad -- >> this week is going to be a critical week. >> even if the speaker and president are cuddling in the lincoln bedroom -- >> i think everybody needs to cool their jets. >> that's not going to get us a deal. >> raising taxing will hurt the economy. >> your stuff stink. we don't want it. >> if anybody out there who is, quote, rich doesn't think that their taxes go up, drink are on me. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> raising tax rates will hurt the economy. >> we'll push it all the way to the senate and then we'll lose. >>> with 22 days until we take that first step off the fiscal curb, president obama traveled to michigan to keep the pressure on republicans in congress. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that, huh?
the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks. >> the heavy lifting is going to have to happen this week. >> if this week goes bad -- >> this week is going to be a critical week. >> even if the speaker and president are cuddling in the lincoln bedroom -- >> i think everybody needs to cool their jets. >> that's not going to get us a deal. >>...
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meet at the white house today at 5:00 p.m. eastern right after -- right after the closing bell, bill. >> right after. >> the point is the house has said they are going away for a long weekend tomorrow, and here we have boehner -- >> wait, don't go yet. >> getting this meeting in at 5:00 p.m., and it's amazing the market came halfway back just on that announcement. not that we have details of a deal, not that we know that we're having an agreement. just the fact that they are meeting. >> actually i thought they would come off the loews much more. >> you did. >> cut it in half, but it stalled here. >> we need more detail. it is encouraging. >> yeah. >> that they are talking. i mean, as long as you've got them in the same room. now, you know, john boehner has said he's leaving tomorrow, come hell or high water. he's going back home to get red for christmas. he says, you know, there is a telephone. >> not leaving for a long weekend. >> you can negotiate over the telephone? >> can't do it. >> no credibility. can't do it. >> i'm gue
meet at the white house today at 5:00 p.m. eastern right after -- right after the closing bell, bill. >> right after. >> the point is the house has said they are going away for a long weekend tomorrow, and here we have boehner -- >> wait, don't go yet. >> getting this meeting in at 5:00 p.m., and it's amazing the market came halfway back just on that announcement. not that we have details of a deal, not that we know that we're having an agreement. just the fact that they...
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the meeting, the white house offered a new proposal lowering its tax revenue from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion. house speaker john boehner offered an undisclosed counteryesterday. >>> well, we want to take you out there live and there it is. it will leave in just 25 minutes and guess what it even includes whyfie an offers trips to sacramento and reno as well as trips from san jose to oakland to los angeles and the company is briefly operating in 2 -- was recently briefly operating in 2007. >> wouldn't you want to watch ktvu channel 2 news on your iphone. i am thinking about what sal was saying about our roads this morning. >>> it is going to be wet and i think if you are driving give yourself extra time this morning and perhaps you want to take your cup of coffee with you on the road instead of having it at home. right now southbound, traffic is moving well and it is wet out there. steve showed us a little while ago, showers are moving through and you might have to use windshield wipers as well and take look at san francisco, northbound 101, that traffic looks good. if you are driving
the meeting, the white house offered a new proposal lowering its tax revenue from 1.6 trillion to 1.4 trillion. house speaker john boehner offered an undisclosed counteryesterday. >>> well, we want to take you out there live and there it is. it will leave in just 25 minutes and guess what it even includes whyfie an offers trips to sacramento and reno as well as trips from san jose to oakland to los angeles and the company is briefly operating in 2 -- was recently briefly operating in...
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house with president obama. we like to spend our sunday afternoons with cnn contributor. lz granderson, a writer for espn, consultant and strategist, good to see body of you. john boehner had some pretty tough words for the president on friday, listen. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. well, but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> so anna, he also said the white house has wasted another week. now two days later, they're meeting again. did boehner's remarks make the difference? >> good. look, i think it's great. we cannot reach a deal if you are posturing and negotiating through press conferences. they need so sit in a room, they need to look at each other, they need to talk constructive debate, and they need to move this ball forward. i think what happened today is a very good sign. americans should be encouraged. it's a good thing. when our congressional leadership
house with president obama. we like to spend our sunday afternoons with cnn contributor. lz granderson, a writer for espn, consultant and strategist, good to see body of you. john boehner had some pretty tough words for the president on friday, listen. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. well, but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> so...
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the white house. we are joined live from kabul. do we know president karzai's response to that invitt nation it comes at an interesting time he gave a controversial interview blaming the u.s. and nato for some of the problems he sees existing in afghanistan. >> reporter: he blamed some of the insecurity here, in part on u.s. and nato forces, their continued presence, their behavior toward the afghan people and the fact that they are still here. we don't yet know what will come of negotiations that are to be continuing next year, if karzai does, in fact, come to the states while necessary d.c. to meet with president obama. we did receive a statement from a u.s. official today on the invitation from the white house, saying that they hope that the negotiations will continue to lay out the rules of the road for a "potential u.s. military presence after 2014." and that is one of the issues that looms large over any talks between the u.s. and afghan officials these days. we know it was a topic of discussion
the white house. we are joined live from kabul. do we know president karzai's response to that invitt nation it comes at an interesting time he gave a controversial interview blaming the u.s. and nato for some of the problems he sees existing in afghanistan. >> reporter: he blamed some of the insecurity here, in part on u.s. and nato forces, their continued presence, their behavior toward the afghan people and the fact that they are still here. we don't yet know what will come of...
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the white house denied it. "zero dark thirty" opens nationwide on january 11th. >> we have a jam packed hour straight ahead on "early start," including roof comes down after a near monsoon. it happened on live tv. >> look at that guy's face and listen to him. >> you all okay? >> crazy, this as severe storms whipped across the south. we are going to talk to the crew who witnessed this whole thing. that's coming up. >>> plus, have you seen this woman? the search for the real mona lisa. did a real life indiana jones find her tomb? and is she still smirking? ben wedeman takes us there. >>> but first, wait for this. a monkey in a coat. where was this cute primate spotted and where on earth did he get that jacket? the answer to this in all the morning's crucial questions coming up next. >> that is so cute. ok this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the
the white house denied it. "zero dark thirty" opens nationwide on january 11th. >> we have a jam packed hour straight ahead on "early start," including roof comes down after a near monsoon. it happened on live tv. >> look at that guy's face and listen to him. >> you all okay? >> crazy, this as severe storms whipped across the south. we are going to talk to the crew who witnessed this whole thing. that's coming up. >>> plus, have you seen this...
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what do you think as we see speaker boehner coming to the white house to speak with president obama. what do you think will come out of this meeting? >> i hope some progress. as you indicated there has been precious little so far. they want to get the country back on a secure footing and get jobs growing in the country. hopefully they will be able to put together. sandra: congressman, its no longer differences between both parties right now. as late as today we're hearing there are difference within the parties themselves, whether republicans. by the way, this is live pictures of speaker boehner arriving at the white house right now. as we continue to watch that, sound like we have infighting within the parties themselves. whether it's the democrats caving on the spending side, on the entitlement side, or the republicans caving on the tax side. are you seeing that infighting in washington right now? >> well, infighting is probably a harsh word. if that is a definition we infight all the time around here. hopefully it is a healthy dialogue where everyone gets a chance to express thems
what do you think as we see speaker boehner coming to the white house to speak with president obama. what do you think will come out of this meeting? >> i hope some progress. as you indicated there has been precious little so far. they want to get the country back on a secure footing and get jobs growing in the country. hopefully they will be able to put together. sandra: congressman, its no longer differences between both parties right now. as late as today we're hearing there are...
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obama and stop making premature concessions for the tv cameras that only make the white house less likely to meet them halfway. is that the net result, dana? >> well, it is a crisis. it's a manmade crisis. it's not like some meteor is headed towards the earth. they set it up this way so there will be these massive tax increases and massive spending cuts, so they do need to -- they have made it to they need to act. the question is do you need an even larger crisis? do you need the economy to be in free fall to get these guys to take some action? unfortunately given the past record, that can't be ruled out. >> yeah. when it comes to cuts, especially on medicare, that whole conversation has to be had. here's what dick durbin said on "meet the press." >> i do believe there should be means testing. those of us with higher income and retirement should pay more. that could be part of the solution. but when you talk about raising the medicare eligibility age there's one key question. what happens to that early retiree. ? what about that gap in coverage between their workplace and medicare? >> jac
obama and stop making premature concessions for the tv cameras that only make the white house less likely to meet them halfway. is that the net result, dana? >> well, it is a crisis. it's a manmade crisis. it's not like some meteor is headed towards the earth. they set it up this way so there will be these massive tax increases and massive spending cuts, so they do need to -- they have made it to they need to act. the question is do you need an even larger crisis? do you need the economy...
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is there any media pressure on the white house? >> there's no media pressure on the white house to explain any of this. in watching this and talking about the pr and how the press is covering the pr especially out of the white house democrats. and the republicans don't have a coherent messenger, what i find fascinating is that the press doesn't cover why obama is doing what he's doing and gets to your point, john. there's an assumption that the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal cliff like the republicans don't. and i think that's the wrong assumption. i think the president does want to go over the fiscal cliff and yet, there's no coverage of that whatsoever. bob woodward actually gave a video interview to political this week and said who is barack obama and what drives him? it's not a big mystery at this point. >> the media seem to have no problems supporting the idea of putting higher taxes on higher wage earningers in this country and take a look at this from the california teachers union. >> and ordinary people wonder
is there any media pressure on the white house? >> there's no media pressure on the white house to explain any of this. in watching this and talking about the pr and how the press is covering the pr especially out of the white house democrats. and the republicans don't have a coherent messenger, what i find fascinating is that the press doesn't cover why obama is doing what he's doing and gets to your point, john. there's an assumption that the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal...
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the knock a lot of people in washington give to the obama white house it is too insular and he doesn't pull the kinds of expertise he needs into this white house. there's an opportunity in this second term for him to shake things up a little bit. you know, maybe to bring in new players, new faces who have been there from the clinton white house, and kind of help the dynamic and help the governing because a lot of people on capitol hill even democrats will tell you, he's not good at governing and building coalitions. maybe if he brought some folks in who knew how to do that there would be more give and take on the fiscal cliff issue, on the tax reform and entitlement reforms that we get next year, and there is a sense he really could use a bit of some fresh blood to make things a little easier going forward. >> chris, susan, and ari, thank you very much for all joining us. and the jobs report, more jobs are added in november than was predicted. what does it all mean for the economy? we'll have our own reality check next. first, new jersey governor chris christie stops by "the daily show
the knock a lot of people in washington give to the obama white house it is too insular and he doesn't pull the kinds of expertise he needs into this white house. there's an opportunity in this second term for him to shake things up a little bit. you know, maybe to bring in new players, new faces who have been there from the clinton white house, and kind of help the dynamic and help the governing because a lot of people on capitol hill even democrats will tell you, he's not good at governing...
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with the white house and republican leaders at a stalemate, president obama is hitting the road to rally support for his plan, which would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one thing, and that is that they will keep their negotiations behind closed doors. the men released this identical statement, saying this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. cnn's dan lothian is at the white house this morning. dan, i guess the fact that the lines of communication are open is a good sign. >> reporter: that's right. it is a good sign. it was just about a week ago that we were reporting about how nothing was going on
with the white house and republican leaders at a stalemate, president obama is hitting the road to rally support for his plan, which would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one...
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but at the same time treasury secretary tim geithner told cnbc that president obama is prepared to take a dive off the so-called fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to take hikes on the richest americans. and so we welcome peter alexander, at the ranks of the white house correspondents, with a look at all of it. >> reporter: brian, good evening, on the north lawn, the phone call marks the first time speaker john boehner and the president spoke in a week, that is hardly something to celebrate, but they wouldn't characterize what they caused in the phone call as the country barrels towards the fiscal cliff. with no talks and no progress to avert the looming fiscal cliff, you could say the house has left the building, streaming out of the capitol. tomorrow's session cancelled. with only three work days left this year, they are often criticized. just 16 votes. across the country, rising frustration, americans asking why the holdup. and what will their taxes look like in 2013. >> maybe instead of getting my sister two things, you give one thing, you have to give pause on what could happe
but at the same time treasury secretary tim geithner told cnbc that president obama is prepared to take a dive off the so-called fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to take hikes on the richest americans. and so we welcome peter alexander, at the ranks of the white house correspondents, with a look at all of it. >> reporter: brian, good evening, on the north lawn, the phone call marks the first time speaker john boehner and the president spoke in a week, that is hardly something to...
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. >> meanwhile, president obama and house speaker john boehner met sunday at the white house. the spokespeople for both men said they agreed not to release details or characterize the meeting. it was their first one-on-one meeting in 18 months as boehner spokesman michael steele says he is still waiting on a counteroffer from the president to last week's republican offer. in michigan today president obama said the house just needs to pass the bill already passed by the senate. >> congress lets middle class taxes go up, economists will tell you that means people will spend nearly $200 billion less than they otherwise would spend. consumer spending is going to go down. all congress needs to do is pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. >> president obama still has the american people firmly on his side. this is what the republicans don't get, apparently. 60% support raising taxes on households earning more than $250,000 a year. this is why a republican congress tom cole said once again fellow republicans should pass a tax cut ex-susp
. >> meanwhile, president obama and house speaker john boehner met sunday at the white house. the spokespeople for both men said they agreed not to release details or characterize the meeting. it was their first one-on-one meeting in 18 months as boehner spokesman michael steele says he is still waiting on a counteroffer from the president to last week's republican offer. in michigan today president obama said the house just needs to pass the bill already passed by the senate. >>...
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to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday, but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear likely any time soon. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> treasury secretary timothy geithner said the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans seems willing to concede that point, the party seemed unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position, i think the day after the campaign, that said we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increase rates. >> the president says if republicans will concede the point, they could reach a deal within
to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday, but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear...
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president obama and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for another round of talks to avert the fiscal cliff. both sides say they're keeping the lines of communications open but no word of a break through. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that taxes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before you're in. i mean, we have one house that's it. the presidency and the senate in the democrat's hand. >> since we agree with the democrats 98% of the people and 08% of the bush tax cuts i would get that off the table now. >> democrats insist taxes are going up on the rich no matter what. >> if you don't increase tax rates on the highest 2% of income owners you cannot generate enough revenue to have meaningful deficit reduction. >> republicans
president obama and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for another round of talks to avert the fiscal cliff. both sides say they're keeping the lines of communications open but no word of a break through. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that taxes go up for the...
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but the white house is open to it. they are open to it in 2011 in the boehner lsh obama talks. what's weird is it's always presented as the height of fiscal responsibility even though it's fiscally irresponsible. which brings us to the challenge. why raising the age does not save you very much money and is probably a bad policy idea in under two minutes. do we have the clock. let's do it. the argument for cutting 65 and 67-year-olds out of a deficit talk is simple. it saves money. the keizer family foundation estimates that when it's all said and done, the government could save $5.7 billion. but those 65 and 66-year-olds don't disappear. they are still going to be here and get sick sometimes which means the savings we'd see by kicking them off they pop back up elsewhere in the economy. it's not pure savings, it's a cost shift. you're going to see increased costs for seniors who will have to find another health insurer since it uses power to pay less by quite a bit. the seniors turning to private insurance will have to pay more from the same coverage. 3.7 billion more in the fir
but the white house is open to it. they are open to it in 2011 in the boehner lsh obama talks. what's weird is it's always presented as the height of fiscal responsibility even though it's fiscally irresponsible. which brings us to the challenge. why raising the age does not save you very much money and is probably a bad policy idea in under two minutes. do we have the clock. let's do it. the argument for cutting 65 and 67-year-olds out of a deficit talk is simple. it saves money. the keizer...
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president obama and house speaker john boehner met at the white house sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. they say the lines of communication are open and more republicans appear willing to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> and heavy snow is piling up across the midwest. some areas got more than 12 inches. officials in minnesota say there were more than 600 car accidents and 150 flights canceled. >>> dallas cowboy football player who police say was driving drunk is free this morning after posting a half million dollar bond. josh brent walked out of a texas jail yesterday, a day after they charged him with intoxicating manslaughter. jerry brown, a linebacker on the team's practice squad died when police say brent crashed his mercedes early wednesday morning near dallas. >> jerry brown is my dear best friend. i'm trying to deal with this right now. >> how -- >> no other statements. >> brent's release came about an hour after the cowboys defeated the bengals, 20-19 in cincinnati. brent was supposed to start in that game. >>> and in tampa bay, santas showing some skin. it was for the santa spe
president obama and house speaker john boehner met at the white house sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. they say the lines of communication are open and more republicans appear willing to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> and heavy snow is piling up across the midwest. some areas got more than 12 inches. officials in minnesota say there were more than 600 car accidents and 150 flights canceled. >>> dallas cowboy football player who police say was driving drunk is free this...
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well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on
well, president obama and speaker boehner met one on one at the white house last night. it was the first time in almost a month. neither side is talking about what happened. but today president obama continues his public campaign to pressure republicans to give on
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president obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. meanwhile, at least four republican senators now support a tax hike on wealthy americans. here is senator tom coburn of oklahoma. >> the fact is we're spending money that we don't have on things we don't absolutely need, and there's no grown-ups in washington that will say time-out, stop the politics, let's have a compromise rather than continue to play the game through the press and hurt the country. >> more on this story in just a few minutes with our senior political analyst, david gergen. >>> a half million dollars, that's the bond set today by a judge near dallas for cowboys nose tackle josh brent. he was behind the wheel in a car accident this weekend that killed teammate jerry brown, jr. police believe brent was drunk when he flipped his mercedes yesterday morning. >>> we have an update to last week's tragedy in kansas cit
president obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. meanwhile, at least four republican senators now support a tax hike on wealthy americans. here is senator tom coburn of oklahoma. >> the fact is we're spending money that we don't have on things we don't absolutely need, and...
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let's bring in our kmeef white house correspondent jessica yellin. what is the white house saying about today's dramatic, very important decision by the federal reserve? >> reporter: wolf, as usual, they are saying nothing. they don't want to comment on fed policy from the white house podium because they never want to say anything that might rock the markets. but i can tell you that democrats generally view these moves as a positive sign something that will create predictability for business so that's something that pleases them. also, behind closed doors here at the white house, wolf, they have been meeting with business leaders today. the president's top advisers and chiefly his economic team has been meeting with ceos and wall street hon chos trying to continue their charm offensive to help some of the nation's top business executives sell their deal on the fiscal cliff and this week the white house had a major victory on that front. the business roundtable, the group that represents some of the top business ceos changed its position and came out
let's bring in our kmeef white house correspondent jessica yellin. what is the white house saying about today's dramatic, very important decision by the federal reserve? >> reporter: wolf, as usual, they are saying nothing. they don't want to comment on fed policy from the white house podium because they never want to say anything that might rock the markets. but i can tell you that democrats generally view these moves as a positive sign something that will create predictability for...
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the white house's website was created to provide an online platform for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of issuing a response if a petition gathering 25,000 signatures in 30 days has caught the attention of the internet trolls. it was the forum used by over 100,000 texans to secede from the united states, which resulted in another petition in -- to withdraw. anything can happen. you can see where this is going. but there's one petition on the site that we here at "the ed show" can certainly get behind. it's a substantial stimulus project that would create millions of jobs, boost america's steel industry, got to love that, expand our space program, and basically guarantee our national security. what could be better? someone has petitioned the administration to build a death star. the fictional moon-size space base capable of destroying entire planets from "star wars." just under 2,000 people have signed the p
the white house's website was created to provide an online platform for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of issuing a response if a petition gathering 25,000 signatures in 30 days has caught the attention of the internet trolls. it was the forum used by over 100,000 texans to secede from the united states, which...
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we begin with negotiations to avert the so-called fiscal cliff both republicans and white house hold their lines and no formal talks yesterday. president obama said he wasn't ruling out some reductions in entitlement programs such as medicare and social security, meanwhile house speaker john boehner has to win over hard liners in his own party. susan mcginnis is following it all. >> reporter: hi. good morning. there are some glimmers of common ground here among the two sides that could form the basis of a deal. the president is now talking about actually lowering the tax rate for the top 2% not now but later. and republicans are now taking some heat over their latest plan a lot of it from within their own party. >> five, four -- >> reporter: house speaker john boehner led the countdown to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> one. >> reporter: but a different countdown weighs on the minds of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> reporter
we begin with negotiations to avert the so-called fiscal cliff both republicans and white house hold their lines and no formal talks yesterday. president obama said he wasn't ruling out some reductions in entitlement programs such as medicare and social security, meanwhile house speaker john boehner has to win over hard liners in his own party. susan mcginnis is following it all. >> reporter: hi. good morning. there are some glimmers of common ground here among the two sides that could...
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the white house is not talking about the details. let's bring in beltway bosom buddies. and ryan grim, the huffington post bureau chief. highly, highly awkward. gentlemen, let's talk first about this loose lips sink ships policy that seems to have been adopted in a bipartisan fashion. ryan, are we to believe that the fact that we are not learning anything about the specifics of any deal is a good sign? >> depends on what you mean by good. if you think this deal is a good thing, then maybe that is good. i might rather see it go off the side of this desk here. but it's a little more serious for sure. they have all agreed they will be nice to each other for at least a few hours after they have exchanged these deals. the last time that geithner came over, geithner didn't come with paper. so republicans typed it up on paper and then leaked it out and said here's what geithner came with. so they created joke and called it a joke. the fact that they're not mocking each other, i guess we can call that progress. >> there's not a physical food fight yet. we heard rumors the white
the white house is not talking about the details. let's bring in beltway bosom buddies. and ryan grim, the huffington post bureau chief. highly, highly awkward. gentlemen, let's talk first about this loose lips sink ships policy that seems to have been adopted in a bipartisan fashion. ryan, are we to believe that the fact that we are not learning anything about the specifics of any deal is a good sign? >> depends on what you mean by good. if you think this deal is a good thing, then maybe...
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he had a private talk with john boehner yesterday at the white house. all we know for sure is that the lines of communication are still open. >> i believe we can give businesses and families a sense of security going into the new year. >> the heart of these negotiations comes down to president obama and john boehner. >> what are the biggest roadblocks to a deal? >> on the right, you have these fiscal conservatives that are insisting they do not want to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> hallie jackson, thank you. >> 6:08. 46 degrees at the airport. a launch delay in south korea. >> it will be a busy day for shipping companies. >> we're nearing winter. you can decorate your house with flowers for the holiday. >> sarah caldwell checking on your morning commute. killion with early morning fog and drizzle. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the
he had a private talk with john boehner yesterday at the white house. all we know for sure is that the lines of communication are still open. >> i believe we can give businesses and families a sense of security going into the new year. >> the heart of these negotiations comes down to president obama and john boehner. >> what are the biggest roadblocks to a deal? >> on the right, you have these fiscal conservatives that are insisting they do not want to raise taxes on the...
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times reports the white house will begin an all-out drive for an immigration bill that will include a path to citizenship for the 11.1 million illegal immigrants currently in the country. the bill would also seek stronger border security measures, penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants and would make it easier to bring in skilled foreign workers under special visas. in the interests of basic self-preservation, many republicans are also clambering for reform following their drubbing in the recent election when mitt's self-deportation policy lost the latino vote by a whopping 44 points. quote "there is a growing sense that this is an opportunity that should be taken, said ed jill esspi, a former republican national can i chairman. "there's no instinct like a survival instinct." for those thinking immigration reform will be a bipartisan community effort, think again. while many top republicans see a drastic need for change, many rank-and-file lawmakers remain skeptical. skeptical, indeed. politico writes regardless of exit polls, demographic trends and lectures from party le
times reports the white house will begin an all-out drive for an immigration bill that will include a path to citizenship for the 11.1 million illegal immigrants currently in the country. the bill would also seek stronger border security measures, penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants and would make it easier to bring in skilled foreign workers under special visas. in the interests of basic self-preservation, many republicans are also clambering for reform following their drubbing...
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but now they're at the president obama white house almost every week meeting with president obama. and i understand that he wants them to help him get his general accomplished. i understand that. what about the other direction? the fact that they're getting all this face time with the president. does that mean they're getting their agenda, too? well, you can judge for yourself in small ways. especially not when the horse you bet on so boldly lost so badly. it also means that working goat some things doesn't mean you have to work together on everything. and it also means that elections have consequences. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> tonight, jay carney's position in the white house secretary hall of fame is assured by what he said today in the white house press briefing room about the republicans' latest budget proposal. quote, it is magic beans and fairy dust. >> i'm worried about the fiscal cliff in the same way i'm worried about martians. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal whatever it is. >> is this a rerun? >> still no progress as all sides jockey for p
but now they're at the president obama white house almost every week meeting with president obama. and i understand that he wants them to help him get his general accomplished. i understand that. what about the other direction? the fact that they're getting all this face time with the president. does that mean they're getting their agenda, too? well, you can judge for yourself in small ways. especially not when the horse you bet on so boldly lost so badly. it also means that working goat some...
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if labor is taken way from the democrats, barack obama might not be in the white house. you can just ask karl rove. >> they lost 612,000 union members in 2010 alone. now think about it. every one of the 612,000 people had union dues going into the political coffers of their union to spend on politics. so yeah, you keep having couple 100,000 people each year, if a half million people leave the labor movement every year, and pretty soon you start having a crimp in the political budgets of these unions, it has a direct effect on the presidential. >> let's crimp the political budgets throughout, and the way we can do that is pass a right-to-work law that will tell union members that they real hi don't have to pay dues. that way they're not going to pay them, and that way it's going to reduce their resources even more. it's going to shake the foundations of the democrats even more. the koch brothers are saying who is making all the phone calls? who is doing all the social networks stuff. where are they getting money for that? they're getting it from the unions. without labor,
if labor is taken way from the democrats, barack obama might not be in the white house. you can just ask karl rove. >> they lost 612,000 union members in 2010 alone. now think about it. every one of the 612,000 people had union dues going into the political coffers of their union to spend on politics. so yeah, you keep having couple 100,000 people each year, if a half million people leave the labor movement every year, and pretty soon you start having a crimp in the political budgets of...
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president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house and try to make some headway on a deal. they're quiet about what happened but the president will loudly make it clear what he wants again today and he's on the road in michigan. also this morning one half of america's favorite fiscal friendship will be here. erskine bowles on debt deal making, whether he wants to work for the obama administration and his pal simpson's newfound love for deficit hawk gangnam style. plus, what will had hillary clinton do next. the secretary of state's future. some of clinton's closest allies are keeping very quiet which actually was surprising. good morning. from washington it's monday, december 10, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we're in double digits in december. what does that mean? it means we're finally at the serious phase of the fiscal negotiations. three weeks to go before the proverbial fiscal cliff. actually it's not proverbial. so-called, right? let's not hope this becomes proverbial. anyway, the president's photo-op of the day will be at a suburban detroit auto
president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house and try to make some headway on a deal. they're quiet about what happened but the president will loudly make it clear what he wants again today and he's on the road in michigan. also this morning one half of america's favorite fiscal friendship will be here. erskine bowles on debt deal making, whether he wants to work for the obama administration and his pal simpson's newfound love for deficit hawk gangnam style. plus, what will...
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aside from it fitting the democrat ex-ideology, it's also what president obama believes is a stimulus to the economy. >> yeah. >> that helps people have disposable income to go to restaurants, buy gas, buy food, to pay things for their children. and i would be very surprised if it ended up as part of the larger deal because it's not going to come in early spring. >> one of the things that's disappointing about this the food stamp issue which i agree with you on is being thrown into the basket in terms of talking about the agricultural reform. we do need ag reform in the country. the industry's changed quite a lot. there are a lot of commodities prices are up, a lot of wealthy farmers out there right now but only in certain areas. in some cases those are not the areas that are getting the subsidies that they need. it needs to be rethought from the ground up. food stamps are a separate issue. >> the farm law reverts back to 1949 law. >> anti-quoted. >> that's a long time ago, jay. >> and the rest of the country would be paying as much for milk as we are in new york city. >> $6 a gallon.
aside from it fitting the democrat ex-ideology, it's also what president obama believes is a stimulus to the economy. >> yeah. >> that helps people have disposable income to go to restaurants, buy gas, buy food, to pay things for their children. and i would be very surprised if it ended up as part of the larger deal because it's not going to come in early spring. >> one of the things that's disappointing about this the food stamp issue which i agree with you on is being thrown...
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obama, for example, to michigan but gamt trying to negotiate behind the scenes with boehner. and it's a two-prong strategy that i think carries real risk. >> it's kind of negotiation 101. i mean, the most basic kind of negotiation, you know, don't show your hand if you don't have to. i'm wondering, matt, is part of this psychological, even real in terms of momentum, democrats feel they have the upper hand and so they don't need to do anything right now. >> can we just take a moment and recognize it's december 10th, december 11th and people are out on the road making politics about this and occasionally meeting and talking about maybe exchanging ideas? this is kind of a big deal, you know? in this same way that passing a buck -- we were told that for a long time. >> for a long time. if there was any kind of seriousness of purpose, and i'm not pointing out either party, you know, one over the other but neither is having a seriousness of purpose about passing budget, about sitting down and talking about this particular question, or about the long term which is going to hit us li
obama, for example, to michigan but gamt trying to negotiate behind the scenes with boehner. and it's a two-prong strategy that i think carries real risk. >> it's kind of negotiation 101. i mean, the most basic kind of negotiation, you know, don't show your hand if you don't have to. i'm wondering, matt, is part of this psychological, even real in terms of momentum, democrats feel they have the upper hand and so they don't need to do anything right now. >> can we just take a moment...
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not to the white house. he and president obama are battling the air war right now. this is all about rejoiner to what i call the president's tour of 2012. the president making an announcement at business round table, meeting with ceos who voted for romney, showing he's bipartisan. john boehner now making the fairness argument? it's a shocking turn of events but a testament to the fact that the republicans know optics are not in their favor. >> here's where it looks like it's heading. republicans float i think a face-saver in the new york times. quote, if no deal can be struck to avert the bush era tax cuts and onset of deep across the board spending cuts gop leadership could foresee taking up and passing legislation this month to extend the tax cuts for the middle class and then resume the bitter fight over spending and taxes as the nation approaches the next hard deadline and statutory barring. that's the debt ceiling coming up later this year, early part of next year. here's the question right now, governor. it seems that's a face saver because they say taxes defe
not to the white house. he and president obama are battling the air war right now. this is all about rejoiner to what i call the president's tour of 2012. the president making an announcement at business round table, meeting with ceos who voted for romney, showing he's bipartisan. john boehner now making the fairness argument? it's a shocking turn of events but a testament to the fact that the republicans know optics are not in their favor. >> here's where it looks like it's heading....
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awards and -- sorry the soul train awards and began by thanking his loud and savior barack obama. and that also was deemed to have been a sacrilegious comment. >> i think some of those folks are upset with his use of the n-word in the movie repeatedly as it were. i don't know that you can do a film focused around the slave trade in that era did sh. >> were they not using that term? is that not historically accurate? >> incredibly without the word being used. it was used like running water. so i think that this is like the war on christmas just fanfare. i think it is a money making mission for some of these websites to produce these columned out pieces to derive more traffic. they are baiting, playing to the least of these. those folks who still harbor some of the worst prejudices stereotypes about people like me, like toure, like yourself. i think it is irresponsible, it is dangerous frankly. if we look at this particular president and we look at the secret service statistics, the number, the sheer number of assassination threats that come into this white house either by the phone
awards and -- sorry the soul train awards and began by thanking his loud and savior barack obama. and that also was deemed to have been a sacrilegious comment. >> i think some of those folks are upset with his use of the n-word in the movie repeatedly as it were. i don't know that you can do a film focused around the slave trade in that era did sh. >> were they not using that term? is that not historically accurate? >> incredibly without the word being used. it was used like...
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. >>> over at the white house president obama has no public events scheduled. meanwhile, over in michigan thousands of union members and supporters are protesting at the state capitol building in lancing. the state, which is the heart of the united autoworkers and ground zero for union rights is poised to sign a major anti-labor bill into law today. the president weighed in on that, speaking yesterday in redford. >> these right to work clause, they don't have anything with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. america is not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no workers rights. that's not our competitive advantage. there's always going to be some other country that can treat its workers even worse. >> the house speaker, john boehner, is speaking now on the house floor regarding the fiscal cliff. let's take a listen. >> beyond 1:50 p.m. today. >> the speaker of the house for five minutes. >> the speaker, last week republicans made a serious offer to avert
. >>> over at the white house president obama has no public events scheduled. meanwhile, over in michigan thousands of union members and supporters are protesting at the state capitol building in lancing. the state, which is the heart of the united autoworkers and ground zero for union rights is poised to sign a major anti-labor bill into law today. the president weighed in on that, speaking yesterday in redford. >> these right to work clause, they don't have anything with...
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jessica, is it surprising that president obama is jumping into this union issue? >> reporter: well, we know how the president feels about this issue. he opposes these laws. but this is the first time he's weighed in on this law in michigan and i suppose the surprise is just how forcefully he spoke out against the michigan law and, you know, in part you can say maybe because his political considerations are different with the election over, one can see how he could now be more candid. here's what the president had to say earlier today, kate. >> these so-called right to work laws, they don't have anything to do with economic. they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. you only have to look to michigan where workers were instrumental in reviving the auto industry to see how unions have helped build not just a stronger middle class but a stronger america. >>. >> reporter: now, come pair that to the president's posture when there was a recall for anti-union legislation. at that time, the
jessica, is it surprising that president obama is jumping into this union issue? >> reporter: well, we know how the president feels about this issue. he opposes these laws. but this is the first time he's weighed in on this law in michigan and i suppose the surprise is just how forcefully he spoke out against the michigan law and, you know, in part you can say maybe because his political considerations are different with the election over, one can see how he could now be more candid....
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boehner held a face to face meeting at the white house and more meetings are expected. the main sticking points remain, raising taxes and cuts to the entitlement programs. republicans are signaling a willingness to raise rates on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. >>> house republicans still oppose raising taxes under the top 2 person under many circumstances and democrats are skeptical about rushing through entitlement reform. they agreed not to discuss their talks but say the lines of communication remain open. >>> it's 5:20. it wasn't a pretty win but it was a win. kaepernick rebounding. >>> and call it one one of the worst free throws ever. >>> and what's cool about your school, you can nominate your school on our web site, and we may feature your school on our web site. come back, check it out. i wouldn't change. [ female announcer ] this test paper was designed to react like your skin. if other body washes can strip this paper, imagine
boehner held a face to face meeting at the white house and more meetings are expected. the main sticking points remain, raising taxes and cuts to the entitlement programs. republicans are signaling a willingness to raise rates on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. >>> house republicans still oppose raising taxes under the top 2 person under many...
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at the white house this week. as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i think it's a good faith efforts to take in a wide range of views. we know that president obama in his first term, obviously, went with secretary gates despite his ties to republican foreign policy. hagel is more of a progressive voice, but i'm not sure that a second-term obama presidency reaches back to another republican defense figure. >> and as to the john kerry/susan rice dilemma that the president faces, he says that the attacks on susan rice won't affect his decision one way or another. it won't force his hand to nominate her, and it won't affect his decision to go with
at the white house this week. as for hillary clinton's position at the state department, the national journal reports that president obama is, quote, genuinely conflicted over whether to pick kerry or united nations ambassador susan rice. president obama said yesterday that republican attacks against susan rice will not influence his decision. jo ari, what do you make of the chuck hagel situation with his name floating into the mix now? >> i think it's a good faith efforts to take in a...
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>> what the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have two goals here. one is to keep the pressure coming from outside the beltway and the second is to make sure that this is not a negotiation between the president and boehner, that they want the president essentially floating above this. >> robert, when we talk and i know you had a chance to hear what congresswoman black will to say about trying to find the right balance here, while a majority of americans, say they go completely support raising taxes on wealthier americans, there is also a majority support that says we don't want to see earned benefits messed with, we don't want to see the medicare eligi
>> what the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have...
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with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key question. can boehner deliver the votes for whatever deal they agree on? >> i remain optimistic and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> but with time running out, neither side seems to have budged very far from the original proposal. the only good news about what happened in the past 24 hours, they are not publicly trashing each other's proposals. on monday the white house sent boehner a counteroffer which at beast can be incremental movement. almost on the details of the offer are under wraps. the $1.6 trillion in tax revenue the president was demanding can come down to slightly under 1.4 trillion. it's still $600 billion higher than the republican position. in a signal to the president in his conference, basically said the president's counteroffer was uncut. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks this process, the slowser our economy gets to the fis
with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key question. can boehner deliver the votes for whatever deal they agree on? >> i remain optimistic and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> but with time running out, neither side seems to have budged very far from the original proposal. the only good news about what happened in the past 24 hours, they...
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late this afternoon president obama and speaker boehner met at the white house in their first face-to-face meeting since fiscal negotiations last sunday and boehner is scheduled to return home to ohio for friday for a long weekend. earlier today the speaker made clear that there would be no compromise without more cuts to spending. let's listen. >> i have been pushing all year for us to address this problem. but here we are at the 11th hour and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue, spending. >> joining me is congress van hollen who is a ranking member on the budget committee and a man many expect to be the next democratic speaker of the house. i do mean that. let's start. you don't have to take that back. you're young, you have a shot. let's talk about -- >> i like your book, by the way. >> the book on kennedy. thank you. let's talk about the speaker of the house. you said in the press the last couple hours or day that boehner is waiting to get re-elected speaker so he can have the republicans behind him before he cuts this deal. >> we
late this afternoon president obama and speaker boehner met at the white house in their first face-to-face meeting since fiscal negotiations last sunday and boehner is scheduled to return home to ohio for friday for a long weekend. earlier today the speaker made clear that there would be no compromise without more cuts to spending. let's listen. >> i have been pushing all year for us to address this problem. but here we are at the 11th hour and the president still isn't serious about...
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. >>> 11 other republican governors want to meet with president obama over the health care law. they want to talk about how to set up health exchanges on expanding the medicaid rolls. they've sent a letter to the white house asking for time with the president. >>> and senator scott brown said good-bye to his colleagues in the senate, but he hinted you have not seen the last of him when he said defeat is only temporary. >>> speaking of good-byes, senator joe lieberman made his farewell speech to his colleagues yesterday. and reflected how much has changed when he took office. he said when he started in the senate, a blackberry was a fruit and tweeting was am for the birds. and the senator had fun talking about his vice presidential run. >> thanks to vice president gore, i was given the opportunity to be the first jewish american nominated for a major political party for national office. and incidentally, thanks to the american people, grateful to have received 500,000 more votes than my opponent on the other side. but that's a longer story. i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash ba
. >>> 11 other republican governors want to meet with president obama over the health care law. they want to talk about how to set up health exchanges on expanding the medicaid rolls. they've sent a letter to the white house asking for time with the president. >>> and senator scott brown said good-bye to his colleagues in the senate, but he hinted you have not seen the last of him when he said defeat is only temporary. >>> speaking of good-byes, senator joe lieberman...
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we're learning much more, the white house saying a short time ago, a u.s. service member, a navy seal was killed in that mission. president obama issuing this statement, tragically we lost one of our special operators in this effort. our thoughts and prayers go to 0 to his family and that mission to rescue dr. dylan joseph from colorado on a humanitarian mission in afghanistan. the doctor was abducted on wednesday in the eastern part of the country in broad daylight while returning to from the clinic that he worked and ordering his rescue after tense showed he was in imminent danger of injury or possible death. peter doocy from washington. >> and he was held captive in the mountains of afghanistan 50 miles from the pakistan border more than three days, dr. joseph was kidnapped in broad daylight wednesday at 3:30 in the afternoon, afghan time following a visit to a rural clinic in eastern kabul province and worked as a medical advisor for a nonprofit for a morning star development. and two others were before the rescue and general john allen, commander of fo
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first, christie visited president obama at the white house asking for $83 billion in extra hurricane aid to help clean withstandup. the very same day he vetoed a bill drafted by his state's democratic legislature that would have billed health care exchange, which aims to subsidize insurance for low and middle income americans. in a statement explaining the rejection, governor christie stated a lack of information from washington. quote, i will not ask new jerseyans to commit today to a state-based exchange when the federal government cannot tell what's it will cost, how that cost compares to other options, and how much control they will give the states over this option that comes at the cost of our state's taxpayers. that makes new jersey state number 19 to say no to the affordable care act's offer for a state-run health insurance exchange, and it puts christie in the ranks of governors like jan brewer in arizona, bobby jindal in louisiana, and scott walker in wisconsin. during his appearance on the daily show, jon stewart took christie to task over his obama care stance. >> the diff
first, christie visited president obama at the white house asking for $83 billion in extra hurricane aid to help clean withstandup. the very same day he vetoed a bill drafted by his state's democratic legislature that would have billed health care exchange, which aims to subsidize insurance for low and middle income americans. in a statement explaining the rejection, governor christie stated a lack of information from washington. quote, i will not ask new jerseyans to commit today to a...
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chief white house correspondent ed henry looks in to that tonight. >> reporter: pulling on the heart strings as if he were back on the campaign trail, president obama visited middle class family in virginia. >> a couple of thousand dollars means a couple months' rent for this family. >> once again, he was trying to frame the battle oaf the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one. that is good for the american economy. >> republicans believe the reason the president is going light on spending cuts and demanding the budget deal include another increase in the nation's debt ceiling is clear. >> this isn't about getting a handle on the deficits or debt for him. it's about spending even more than he already has. >> white house aides reject republican claims that holding the debt limit over the president head is the only mechanism to get him to trim s
chief white house correspondent ed henry looks in to that tonight. >> reporter: pulling on the heart strings as if he were back on the campaign trail, president obama visited middle class family in virginia. >> a couple of thousand dollars means a couple months' rent for this family. >> once again, he was trying to frame the battle oaf the fiscal cliff as being all about taxes. with no mention of spending cuts. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents...
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republicans have sent the white house a counterproposal in response to a new plan president obama offered up privately yesterday. a boehner aide said the g.o.p. is waiting for the president to identify spending cuts, a point the speaker made on the house floor earlier today while white house press secretary jay carney called on republicans to get serious about revenue. >>here are the psint's spenng cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. now, if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. because right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering when is the president going to get serious? >> on that question of whether or not we have put forward specific spending cuts, the answer is is we have. not only that, we signed law a trillion dollars in specific spending cuts. so if you combine what is signed into law with what we proposed versus the total absence of any specificity from the republicans for a sin
republicans have sent the white house a counterproposal in response to a new plan president obama offered up privately yesterday. a boehner aide said the g.o.p. is waiting for the president to identify spending cuts, a point the speaker made on the house floor earlier today while white house press secretary jay carney called on republicans to get serious about revenue. >>here are the psint's spenng cuts? the longer the white house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to...
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president obama and house speaker john boehner know they have to reach agreement this week if there's to be a deal, which is why they met behind closed doors on sunday. spokesmen for both men say that lines of communication remain open with the president reiterating today that he's up for a big deal. >> i have said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation, and reducing our deficits. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit, we've also got to be serious about investing in the thiges that help us grow and make the middle class strong. >> as for speaker boehner, he continued his political posturing today with a statement. quote, the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer, and we continue to wait for the president to identify the spending cuts he's willing to make as part of the balanced approach he promised the american people. that said, an increasingly limber group of republicans are showing flekx 5eb89 on higher rates for top earners arguing raising rates on the rich will give them gre
president obama and house speaker john boehner know they have to reach agreement this week if there's to be a deal, which is why they met behind closed doors on sunday. spokesmen for both men say that lines of communication remain open with the president reiterating today that he's up for a big deal. >> i have said i will work with republicans on a plan for economic growth, job creation, and reducing our deficits. i'm willing to compromise a little bit. but if we're serious about reducing...
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that is adding to president obama's steam here. he believes he has it. >> kristen welker at the white house and mike. we're waiting for john boehner there live. >>> in political wire, a new strategy memo saying the gop has, quote, run out of persuadable white voters. for the fifth time in the past six presidential elections, republicans have lost the political vote. politico has a perspective saying i think we did a great job. unfortunately, i think the other side did a great job for four years. >>> and huffington post, is going to arrest lady gaga. why? for promoting lggt rights. weekly briefing. >> the president has not make a deal that meets those two standards but republicans have. his proposals have been anything but. he wants far more in tax hikes than spending cuts. and instead of trying to solve our debt problem, he wants new stimulus spending and the ability to raise the debt limit whenever he wants without tax cuts or reforms. it's clear the president is just not serious about cutting spending. but spending is the problem
that is adding to president obama's steam here. he believes he has it. >> kristen welker at the white house and mike. we're waiting for john boehner there live. >>> in political wire, a new strategy memo saying the gop has, quote, run out of persuadable white voters. for the fifth time in the past six presidential elections, republicans have lost the political vote. politico has a perspective saying i think we did a great job. unfortunately, i think the other side did a great job...
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remember the summer of 2011, when president obama was perceived, and they believed at the white house, that he kept making concession after concession and didn't get anywhere. they are definitely not doing that now. >> well, the election had to inform how they came out so strongly basically said, this is the deal. and legislators are saying we're not giving on medicare or the spending cuts either. >> what people are forgetting is there is already a deal. this thing we call the fiscal cliff is a law that republicans voted for and that the president steered them to vote for. and strategically, he was victorious in that. the theory of this thing was, no one wants it to happen. no one wants anything in this bill to happen. the rates to go up or all the spending cuts. but it turns out that the democrats and the president like more of what would happen on january 1 than republicans. >> do you know who agrees with you? rick santorum. i spoke to him on press pass and this is what he said. and newt gingrich, you respond after you hear this. >> the greatest leverage he has is that he put togeth
remember the summer of 2011, when president obama was perceived, and they believed at the white house, that he kept making concession after concession and didn't get anywhere. they are definitely not doing that now. >> well, the election had to inform how they came out so strongly basically said, this is the deal. and legislators are saying we're not giving on medicare or the spending cuts either. >> what people are forgetting is there is already a deal. this thing we call the...
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>> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. it's not me being stubborn or patterson. it's just a matter of math. >> there have been no deals of this magnitude made in modern times in congress and forced on a reluctant president. >> the president continues to change the goal posts along this process. >> we're looking for solutions and it doesn't seem, at least from the president's proposal, that he is at all serious about finding the solutions to help our country. >> he thinks somebody's made him king. >> if the president really wants to reach an agreement, he needs to talk to the members of his own party right here in washington trying to broker an agreement, not out there firing up crowds and giving speeches. >> its time for the president and the democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. >> we loo
>> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. it's not me being stubborn or patterson. it's just a matter of math. >> there have been no deals of this magnitude made in modern times in congress and forced on a reluctant president. >> the president continues to change the goal posts...
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now, we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you
now, we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the...
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snow covered bo obama running across the white house north lawn. >> oh. >> did you practice if? >> i've never done this before. >> well, that's the president's top strategist david axelrod squinting as the stash gets slashed in front of everybody. the first time he's had a completely clean face in 40 years, he says. it was all for a good cause after raising a million bucks for the epilepsy charity he founded. could mark sanford be making a political comeback? the former governor of south carolina not ruling out a run for jim demint's seat in 2014. he told "the wall street journal" it's not a no, but not a yes. he was once a rising star in the rising party before an extramarital affair derailed his career. nikki haley gets to pick a replacement. comedy central's stephen colbert hinted at another unlikely candidate. >> but who will she pick? let's see. want somebody young, somebody conservative, somebody from south carolina, maybe somebody who had a super pac. wait a second. [ applause ] watch where you point that thing. it's powerful. okay. >> that wandering f infinger. colbert t
snow covered bo obama running across the white house north lawn. >> oh. >> did you practice if? >> i've never done this before. >> well, that's the president's top strategist david axelrod squinting as the stash gets slashed in front of everybody. the first time he's had a completely clean face in 40 years, he says. it was all for a good cause after raising a million bucks for the epilepsy charity he founded. could mark sanford be making a political comeback? the former...
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. >>> casper, deep blue, bird, jordan, mcenroe, coners, boehner, obama. it is friday, december 7th, this is "now." >> joining me today, chief economic correspondent for politico ben white, editor at large for salon.com, joe walsh, queen bee and editing manager of the grio.com, and buzz fooeds.com ben smith. the labor department delivered a december surprise, which might just alter the debate over the fiscal cliff. despite predictions of stalled job creation in november in superstorm sandy and looming fiscal cliff, the nation added 146,000 jobs last month, and unemployment ticked down to 7.7%. while november's figures are higher than expected, september and october were revised down 16 and 33,000 jobs respectively. chief economists for moody's analytics mark zandi cautions november may see a downward revision but the numbers are a good sign. >> bottom line, feels like the job market is holding firm in the face of sandy and fiscal cliff concerns, so that's good news. >> surprising exactly no one, the white house and republicans had different spin on the num
. >>> casper, deep blue, bird, jordan, mcenroe, coners, boehner, obama. it is friday, december 7th, this is "now." >> joining me today, chief economic correspondent for politico ben white, editor at large for salon.com, joe walsh, queen bee and editing manager of the grio.com, and buzz fooeds.com ben smith. the labor department delivered a december surprise, which might just alter the debate over the fiscal cliff. despite predictions of stalled job creation in november...
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here comes obama in the white hat on the whitehorse to save the day. he is going to propose, guess what? tax cuts for the middle class and, thereby, take the issue away from the republicans. tax cuts for the rich they will own. somebody needs to explain to me what is the benefit to obama in letting the republicans out of the trap of going over the cliff? i think going over the cliff is the most attractive option obama has. >> crystal, you can learn it from rush limbaugh on 12-12-12 or you could have learned it from me this summer. >> i learned it from you this summer. >> there you go. he is finally catching on. he finally gets it. >> it pains me a little bit to say this but rush is right. if republicans were smart. >> this is the rush is right night. >> that's the theme of the night. >> i'm not going to show any more rush. he has three hours of radio today. that thing that we just showed is the rush is right moment. >> if they were smart, they would go ahead and do that. take it off the table and live to fight another day. i do think they are a little
here comes obama in the white hat on the whitehorse to save the day. he is going to propose, guess what? tax cuts for the middle class and, thereby, take the issue away from the republicans. tax cuts for the rich they will own. somebody needs to explain to me what is the benefit to obama in letting the republicans out of the trap of going over the cliff? i think going over the cliff is the most attractive option obama has. >> crystal, you can learn it from rush limbaugh on 12-12-12 or you...
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." >>> joining me today, msnbc contributor and political editor and white house correspondent for the "huffington post," sam stein holding it down stag style. jane mayer from "the new yorker" is here. bbc world news america anchor and former traveling press secretary for the obama campaign jen socky. this is the speed of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 billion, which indicates there may have been concessions else where. a democratic source close to the w
." >>> joining me today, msnbc contributor and political editor and white house correspondent for the "huffington post," sam stein holding it down stag style. jane mayer from "the new yorker" is here. bbc world news america anchor and former traveling press secretary for the obama campaign jen socky. this is the speed of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the...
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to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going to need a response from the white house. we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday. republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person here at capitol hill or at the white house there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes. >> i'm obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> timothy gitner said the white house is willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of corners. the parties position seems unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position i think the day after the campaign that said we're willing to bring in revenue but not being to take a risk. >> the president said they could reach a deal within a week. >> the white house budget officer is issuing an order to prepare for more than $100 billion in spending cuts in a compromise cannot be reached before the deadline. >>> changes are coming to the national hu
to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going to need a response from the white house. we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday. republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person here at capitol hill or at the white house there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes. >> i'm obsession to raise taxes is not...
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and president obama and boehner have spoken at this time. quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more jobs. that's all we know. dana milbank, they say it's good. they said it will solve our problems. they won't say what it is. explain. >> well, look, we're still in the fairly early stage of posturing here, and nobody can strike a deal until they get closer to it, until their feet are to the fire. >> when do you say the fire begins? >> nobody can make any prediction for sure -- >> try. >> they could hammer this out in three hours if they really wanted to. >> that's right. >> but if they don't wait until the very end of december or even go over the cliff -- >> i think it's 21. i'm going to bet on -- what's your hunch about this, ron reagan? you're here -- i think they're going to try to get it done by christmas just for efficiency's sake and not to scare the horses. that's the thought i have. i may be conservative about this. >> yeah, i think you're right, they'd like
and president obama and boehner have spoken at this time. quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more jobs. that's all we know. dana milbank, they say it's good. they said it will solve our problems. they won't say what it is. explain. >> well, look, we're still in the fairly early stage of posturing here, and nobody can strike a deal until they get closer to it, until their feet are to the fire. >> when do...
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first, they said they wanted to make barack obama a one-term president. what are they tried to do now? to some extent the white house as well. host: thank you for the call this morning. here is "the wall street journal." and that peace in "the wall street journal." i want to show you a clip of john boehner talking about his position. [video clip] >> we have a debt problem out of control. we have to cut spending. the revenues we are putting on the table will come from -- guess who -- the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm the economy. host: we are taking your calls this morning on whether members of congress and the presidential compromise or stick to their principles. brian is next from massachusetts on the independent line. caller: good morning. i think the republicans and democrats -- medicare is not paying for itself. it is costing us more than what we pay into it. if you make $1,000, they take $100 of
first, they said they wanted to make barack obama a one-term president. what are they tried to do now? to some extent the white house as well. host: thank you for the call this morning. here is "the wall street journal." and that peace in "the wall street journal." i want to show you a clip of john boehner talking about his position. [video clip] >> we have a debt problem out of control. we have to cut spending. the revenues we are putting on the table will come from...
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it's apparently a response to an offer the white house made yesterday. that was one day after the president and the speaker met one on one at the white house. of course three weeks from today automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in if they can't come to deal. jim angle is following late developments from our washington newsroom. there have been a lot of them in just the last 30 minutes. >> i will say, shep. the clock, of course, as you indicated is clicking louder. not clear if we had real progress or just movement. president and speaker boehner did talk by phone tonight after white house offer monday and counter offer from boehner about which his office said quote we sent the white house a counter offer that would achieve tax and entitlement reform to solve our loom being debt crisis and create more miner jobs. the statement also reit raided, however, what speaker boehner and others said earlier today. listen. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spends cuts the president is wig to makes a part of the balanced approach. wher
it's apparently a response to an offer the white house made yesterday. that was one day after the president and the speaker met one on one at the white house. of course three weeks from today automatic tax hikes and spending cuts kick in if they can't come to deal. jim angle is following late developments from our washington newsroom. there have been a lot of them in just the last 30 minutes. >> i will say, shep. the clock, of course, as you indicated is clicking louder. not clear if we...
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this morning if we're going to solve this problem every congressional leader and more importantly the white house have all important roles to play. the fact is we've heard this same thing. and that is that pelosi and the senate leaders are not in the room at first. they'll be brought in when boehner and the white house are close. mann while, back to the debt ceiling. the new republicans' main point of leverage n. a rare misstep, mcconnell may have taken some of that leverage away in a move that ended with mcconnell filibustering himself. the president doesn't have enough democratic support, mcconnell moved to vote to permanently give the president the rate to approve the debt ceiling. reid shocked mcconnell by calling the idea of having that vote a positive development. forcing him to reject a vote he had called for himself. >> is there objection? >> reserving the right to object, matters of this controversy -- what we're talking about here is a perpetual debt ceiling grant in effect for the president. >> i guess we have a filibuster to his own bill so i object. >> is there objection to the
this morning if we're going to solve this problem every congressional leader and more importantly the white house have all important roles to play. the fact is we've heard this same thing. and that is that pelosi and the senate leaders are not in the room at first. they'll be brought in when boehner and the white house are close. mann while, back to the debt ceiling. the new republicans' main point of leverage n. a rare misstep, mcconnell may have taken some of that leverage away in a move that...
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house is decorated and from the looks of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after president obama embraces a rapper once calling for the death of innocent americans. >> he was caught on camera shaking his hand. he's not going to stand up for our brave men and women in the military? that's pretty sad. >> we have specifics coming out of our eyeballs. i'm very confident we can take the smat. we're doing to win this race because people know we need a better future for this country and i don't think people are hoping for four more years of this mess. >> let's get to our panel. jonathan capehart is an msnbc contributor and karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and the former director of communications at the dnc. kare
house is decorated and from the looks of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after...
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the white house quickly condemned it as a highly provocative act. what message does this send to the world? >>> president obama for the first time is recognizing the syrian rebels. will this ramp up the pressure on the syrian president to give up the fight? >>> and huge protests didn't stop michigan's governor from signing the right to work law. what's this tell us about the future of labor? >>> but we begin with the latest on the fiscal cliff. republicans made another counteroffer but it's reportedly not much different from their first offer. though we don't have specifics, we do know the president and john boehner talked on the phone last night and that call, according to a republican familiar with it, was tense and lasted just 15 minutes. i want to bring in real clear politics reporter aaron mcpike and david hawkings, editor of the cq roll call daily briefing. good morning. so president obama sat down with barbara walters last night. here's what he said. >> most important thing we can do is make sure the middle class taxes do not go up on january
the white house quickly condemned it as a highly provocative act. what message does this send to the world? >>> president obama for the first time is recognizing the syrian rebels. will this ramp up the pressure on the syrian president to give up the fight? >>> and huge protests didn't stop michigan's governor from signing the right to work law. what's this tell us about the future of labor? >>> but we begin with the latest on the fiscal cliff. republicans made...
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, the white house, congressional democrats, want to go over the fiscal cliff because they believe that it is more politically advantageous for them to do so. is that a sentiment you agree with or not? >> i believe that the president and the democrats see a political victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. i see financial problems for our country at the bottom of the fiscal cliff with unemployment over 9%, and another recession. i think -- i want to find a solution working with people on both sides of the aisle but when you have howard dean, the former chairman of the democratic national committee, you have patty murray, who ran the democratic senatorial committee encouraging going over the cliff i think it's irresponsible. i think we ought to have the president sitting down with john boehner, finding solutions that can, one, pass the house, and, two, be signed by the president, and i believe if you find that solution, it will pass the senate. >> senator john barrasso, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next on "andrea mitchell reports" -- as the house heads home, are democrat
, the white house, congressional democrats, want to go over the fiscal cliff because they believe that it is more politically advantageous for them to do so. is that a sentiment you agree with or not? >> i believe that the president and the democrats see a political victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. i see financial problems for our country at the bottom of the fiscal cliff with unemployment over 9%, and another recession. i think -- i want to find a solution working with people...
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last night president obama and house speaker john boehner met one-on-one at the white house to crunch a fiscal deal. it was 69 first time the two men met alone like this since the summer of 2011. the last time they tried to hammer out a deal. well, the president was in michigan today speaking before autoworkers and selling his tax plan. let's listen. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning the next few weeks, starting on january 1st everybody is going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that, huh? we can solve this problem. all congress needs to do is pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody. that means 98% of americans and probably 100% of you. >> in some republicans are slowly but steadily fatesing a reality on the fiscal negotiations. leading the way, senator bob corker of tennessee. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate i
last night president obama and house speaker john boehner met one-on-one at the white house to crunch a fiscal deal. it was 69 first time the two men met alone like this since the summer of 2011. the last time they tried to hammer out a deal. well, the president was in michigan today speaking before autoworkers and selling his tax plan. let's listen. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning the next few weeks, starting on january 1st everybody is going to see their income taxes go up....
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obama-friendly business group given greater access to the white house. guest: well, first of all we -- what we do is bring business leaders from around the country to brief the president and economic team on everything from health care reform to immigration reform. the fiscal cliff, intellectual property protection. and the business leaders are speaking for themselves. generally speaking, business leaders are centrist, the data driven, results oriented, and they are looking for compromise in washington. is it a pro-obama group, protest republican group? it is really its own group and the to the people speak for themselves. host: who are some of the names people might recognize, the ceo's of which companies? guest: the efforts the white house has made this year is much larger and much more effective than it was last year. they are bringing in more people with business ford but with a lot of other organizations as well. the president spoke with financial services leaders and has brought in two groups of big-name ceos. -- the president has spoken with busin
obama-friendly business group given greater access to the white house. guest: well, first of all we -- what we do is bring business leaders from around the country to brief the president and economic team on everything from health care reform to immigration reform. the fiscal cliff, intellectual property protection. and the business leaders are speaking for themselves. generally speaking, business leaders are centrist, the data driven, results oriented, and they are looking for compromise in...